# Why does anova continue to show lack of being a quality company by ignoring basic features like an API? **URL:** \ **Category:** Anova Precision® Oven\ **Created:** [January 23, 2023, 10:34pm UTC](https://community.anovaculinary.com/t/why-does-anova-continue-to-show-lack-of-being-a-quality-company-by-ignoring-basic-features-like-an-api/31684 "2023-01-23T22:34:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![AntByte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4491bb/32.png) [@AntByte](https://community.anovaculinary.com/u/AntByte)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 10:34pm UTC](https://community.anovaculinary.com/t/why-does-anova-continue-to-show-lack-of-being-a-quality-company-by-ignoring-basic-features-like-an-api/31684/1 "2023-01-23T22:34:24Z")
Hi Anova. Suck less. Tell us how you plan to do this. ---
**Author:** ![Zeus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zeus](https://community.anovaculinary.com/u/Zeus)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 11:11pm UTC](https://community.anovaculinary.com/t/why-does-anova-continue-to-show-lack-of-being-a-quality-company-by-ignoring-basic-features-like-an-api/31684/2 "2023-01-23T23:11:53Z")
What is API? ---
**Author:** ![Douglas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/community.anovaculinary.com/douglas/32/7533_2.png) [@Douglas](https://community.anovaculinary.com/u/Douglas)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 12:32pm UTC](https://community.anovaculinary.com/t/why-does-anova-continue-to-show-lack-of-being-a-quality-company-by-ignoring-basic-features-like-an-api/31684/3 "2023-01-24T12:32:28Z")
An API is a hook for hackers. Application Programmming Interface allows inter communication between computers. Contrary to User Interface UI for mere mortals. ---
**Author:** ![Zeus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zeus](https://community.anovaculinary.com/u/Zeus)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 5:16pm UTC](https://community.anovaculinary.com/t/why-does-anova-continue-to-show-lack-of-being-a-quality-company-by-ignoring-basic-features-like-an-api/31684/4 "2023-01-24T17:16:26Z")
Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Nicks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4af34b/32.png) [@Nicks](https://community.anovaculinary.com/u/Nicks)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 5:57pm UTC](https://community.anovaculinary.com/t/why-does-anova-continue-to-show-lack-of-being-a-quality-company-by-ignoring-basic-features-like-an-api/31684/5 "2023-01-24T17:57:46Z")
Why would you want this? It’s a cooker!!! ---
**Author:** ![ira](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/community.anovaculinary.com/ira/32/8023_2.png) [@ira](https://community.anovaculinary.com/u/ira)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 9:25pm UTC](https://community.anovaculinary.com/t/why-does-anova-continue-to-show-lack-of-being-a-quality-company-by-ignoring-basic-features-like-an-api/31684/6 "2023-01-24T21:25:23Z")
There is no requirement that Anova provide an API and dissing them for it will likely get you nowhere. Ask nicely, offer to help, demonstrate why it would be a benefit, and maybe it will be considered. ---
**Author:** ![AntByte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4491bb/32.png) [@AntByte](https://community.anovaculinary.com/u/AntByte)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 3:50am UTC](https://community.anovaculinary.com/t/why-does-anova-continue-to-show-lack-of-being-a-quality-company-by-ignoring-basic-features-like-an-api/31684/7 "2023-01-26T03:50:24Z")
Here, read this. It was asked nicely, someone even found a way to get the keys to allow access for automation or changing temps throughout a cook. Then they blocked it. > [@Open up the API](https://community.anovaculinary.com/t/open-up-the-api/13365): > > We are many here in the forum that are working with development and technology. There has been several threads about this before. Can you please open up the API? It doesn’t have to be completely open but a description on how it works and what one can do to registered developers that can build their own apps around it. Many has already large parts of it after some reverse engineering. And from what I know it’s a about authorization and get a token that one can use to ask for the anovas device… ---
**Author:** ![ira](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/community.anovaculinary.com/ira/32/8023_2.png) [@ira](https://community.anovaculinary.com/u/ira)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 8:01am UTC](https://community.anovaculinary.com/t/why-does-anova-continue-to-show-lack-of-being-a-quality-company-by-ignoring-basic-features-like-an-api/31684/8 "2023-01-26T08:01:44Z")
OK, so they proved they don’t want to do it, but no matter what, getting angry probably won’t accomplish anything. Likely some lawyer told them it’s a problem and it’s going to be a long journey and it might never happen. ---
**Author:** ![JoeInOttawa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/47e85d/32.png) [@JoeInOttawa](https://community.anovaculinary.com/u/JoeInOttawa)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2023, 4:22pm UTC](https://community.anovaculinary.com/t/why-does-anova-continue-to-show-lack-of-being-a-quality-company-by-ignoring-basic-features-like-an-api/31684/9 "2023-01-29T16:22:42Z")
Offering API access requires a whole new development and testing division to vet the entire API. Otherwise, opening the oven, a device that uses electricity, heating elements, and water and lives entirely surrounded by lacquer-finished wood – what could possibly go wrong? – opens them up to all kinds of liability. What if you use the API to do something that is beyond the specs of the oven, like broiling at 500 degrees for 30 minutes? An unfettered API would not stop you from using this over-heat to burn down your house. Then who are you going to sue? To release the API, they would first have to build a portal/session manager, then test limits on every single controllable option, then test every combination of every single option. The costs of that would be astronomical, and I, for one, do not want to pay extra for a small number of people to be able to tweak their bacon cook from their Alexa. So yeah, it’s sad they don’t have an API; but it’s also completely understandable, both from an economic and a liability standpoint. ---
**Author:** ![reid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/community.anovaculinary.com/reid/32/7577_2.png) [@reid](https://community.anovaculinary.com/u/reid)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2023, 10:56pm UTC](https://community.anovaculinary.com/t/why-does-anova-continue-to-show-lack-of-being-a-quality-company-by-ignoring-basic-features-like-an-api/31684/10 "2023-02-06T22:56:13Z")
I think API access would be pretty cool, I hope they can do it at some point. ---
**Author:** ![akuhtr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@akuhtr](https://community.anovaculinary.com/u/akuhtr)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 12:29pm UTC](https://community.anovaculinary.com/t/why-does-anova-continue-to-show-lack-of-being-a-quality-company-by-ignoring-basic-features-like-an-api/31684/11 "2023-12-06T12:29:03Z")
That is horrible and wrong argument. You need at least same firmware level limits and same testing with cloud as with local API. If you do somethink wrong with local API without firmware level limits, worst case scenarion is your house burn to ash. With cloud based solution worst case scenario is thousand of houses burn to ashes. It can be bug on cloud, it can be hacker attack,… When somebody hack anova servers, what stop it from like broiling at 500 degrees for 30 minutes? What stop hacker from using this over-heat to burn down your house? Only limits in firmware. So there is no difference between API and cloud access dangers. No extra testing for safety reasons. All already need to be done. This is limits need to implement on firmware for cloud and they are same limits you need for local API, because cloud is not safer then local api. You can’t be sure that cloud is not compromised. It’s irelevant from what source it get command. Even if that is from god of internet, firmware need to tell if it’s safe before do what command say. And secondary, even if there is safety reason (which is not) for not accept command with local API, what reason is for not sending data? Why not at least get read only access? ---
**Author:** ![BostonBestEats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d6d6ee/32.png) [@BostonBestEats](https://community.anovaculinary.com/u/BostonBestEats)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 1:27am UTC](https://community.anovaculinary.com/t/why-does-anova-continue-to-show-lack-of-being-a-quality-company-by-ignoring-basic-features-like-an-api/31684/12 "2023-12-31T01:27:39Z")
FWIW, someone on Reddit has successfully been able to intercept data coming from the APO and created an interface to display it (although not control the oven). ---
**Author:** ![bogd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e4f/32.png) [@bogd](https://community.anovaculinary.com/u/bogd)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 10:42am UTC](https://community.anovaculinary.com/t/why-does-anova-continue-to-show-lack-of-being-a-quality-company-by-ignoring-basic-features-like-an-api/31684/13 "2026-09-23T10:42:27Z")
The possibility to control the oven has been there for a while 🙂 . But now, finally, Anova has [officially documented their API](https://developer.anovaculinary.com/docs/intro)!! To all the people in this thread saying that “it would be too difficult”, or “too dangerous”, or “too expensive” - you need to realize that this API has existed for years. It was the way their devices talked to the cloud, and the way their own applications interacted with the devices. So all of your “concerns” were already there (and hopefully already taken care of). The only difference is that now it is publicly documented, and people can build on that.